@banthabot: I see. That’s a sacred object that contains ancient Force-sensitive knowledge. And it is noteworthy that the rule of two does not give Maul an advantage, for two reasons. She ducked under a horizontal cut from his lightsaber, only to catch a heavy boot in her ribs. Source : George Lucas / AOTC DVD Commentary. 1654x1325 Darth Bane and Zannah vs Maul and Opress - Battles - Comic Vine. Kas'im was stated to be the greatest duelist in the galaxy of his time (putting him above everyone else here), and was stated by either Bane or the omniscient narrator as possibly being more skilled than any duelist who had come before him. And those with the potential to become Sith Lords-and only those with such potential-are trained here on Korriban.". "I agree," Bane replied, hurling out the wave of Force energy he had been gathering during the Blademaster's speech. Secondly, there are also sources stating that Maul's sheer skill almost eclipsed both Obi-Wan's and Qui-Gon's combined or the novelization of TPM, where Maul muses that the duo has no idea how hard he is dominating them. The contact lifted her off her feet and sent her sprawling. Darth Maul lml. But it is still very comparable. But somehow she had survived the initial flurry, and now she knew what to expect. Luke's entire body felt stiff and sore, his head was aching, and his hands were trembling. Darth Tenebrous, noto alla galassia come Rugess Nome, era un Signore dei Sith Bith, che fu il maestro di Darth Plagueis. But mainly the Sith gained power behind the scenes, influencing galactic affairs, gaining political sway, becoming more powerful in the areas of cunning and guile. When Sidious realized Maul's potential he took him from me and trained him as a Sith. Unable to simply bully his way heedlessly forward, he had developed an unpredictable, seemingly random style. But it was more than that. Darth Maul and Cad Bane. I'm not claiming it's superior to Maul but it definitely is comparable. Her reactions were so fast, her combat instincts so pure, that she was able to sense and anticipate what he was going to do even as it happened, then use his attacks to her own advantage. And this was before Dooku began his Sith training. Now he had to reevaluate his strategy. Source : The Clone Wars: Season 4 Episode 21. Maul, more skilled and possibly more powerful. So if Kaan developing his talents evenly is even remotely true, then he should very well be one of the most skilled duelists in history, something reaffirmed by him being used as a simulation in the Jedi Trial of Skill. He imagined Yoda tumbling through the air, bloody and insensible, dashing his brains out on the flagstones far below. It is the way of the Echani to be able to read their opponents - to know where an opponent is going to strike before it connects, anticipate it, and then strike against them. She tried to pull back but it was too late. It feels familiar. After years of study, he'd mastered all seven forms of the lightsaber. So I actually wrote a history of it and what goes on there a thousand years ago - which explains the stone figures, and the temple, and all the mechanism you see there. Parrying the first sequence Bane realized his former Master had always been holding something in reserve . Also, where was it established that the OP can't make arguments for one side? All-out, I can be swayed to support either side. Bane goes out of his way throughout his training to find arcane, unorthodox Sith lore and learn as much as he can. The Dark Lord staggered and fell to his knees. The bolts ricocheted around wildly inside the globe, creating a storm of energy so intense that Zannah had to shield her eyes and look away. Quando era ancora un bambino Madre Talzin si alleò con Darth Sidiouse i due incominciarono a scambiarsi poteri e saperi. Better to flee and fight another day ! The answers are in the post. And her victory was ultimately a very circumstantial one. Lord Kaan knew he was no match for Bane, either physically or through the power of the Force. As much as I loved writing about all-powerful Sith and Jedi . Like all Echani, the Thyrsians excel at reading the smallest cues of body language, making them superb fighters. They couldn’t get out of it together because they would betray each other. This statement is wrong for several reasons. Then consider instances like Darth Gravid, where his apprentice wasn't fully trained when she ass-pulled a victory and ended up seriously injured and lacking the knowledge of her master. A shimmering purple cocoon of dark side energy enveloped Bane, a fragile shell holding back a storm of pure power. And yes, unlike some people think, Palpatine didn't only train Maul in terms of fighting skills, he also taught him and informed him about the ancient Sith Holocrons and the ancient Sith temple. I've been debating in favor of Bane for three years now, and quite frankly the argument that Bane should be downscaled from the point his showings would otherwise put him at due to Rule of Two scaling is one of the most irritating, least substantiated, and most reaching arguments for Bane's inferiority to people who don't even get proper Rule of Two scaling that I have ever heard. She furrowed her scarred brow, then turned to Tesar and Lowbacca. For me Bane wins an all out fight with mid to high difficulty depending on how much he relies on martial combat and force abilities. "I'm fine," he said. But yes she did run away which is why this is a showing below that of Darth Maul. Il suo ricordo più remoto era suo padre che lo picchiava—Hurst incolpava spesso suo figlio per la morte della moglie, deceduta durante il parto. He tested his legs and found them a little wobbly. That said, I've seen it be argued he was a equal/near equal of qui-gon which may give him some relativism to maul depending on how you interpret maul's 1 v1 on tatooine. It's actually not hard to compare different eras. The tip of a small, wedge-shaped blade scraped against his ribs and sent a blazing bolt of pain shooting into his body. ....The whole point of the RoT is for a Master to train his apprentice until said apprentice surpasses and kills the Master.For this to happen,the Master must teach the apprentice with the full intention of him/her surpassing and succeding the Master in the lineage. Like me on Facebook! I see. Still love ya tho. She was only put into a bad position due to a surprise attack by Obi-wan, which caught both Aurra and Jinn off guard. He was in no shape to do battle with her now; he was even too tired to come up with a lie to explain his absence without raising her suspicions. Per ovviare al problema dei conflitti i… This is all moot unless maul benefits from banite scaling. Become a Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/starwarsreadingclubLooking for Star Wars books? . And here Bane is clearly superior in my opinion, I want to say Bane because of how I hold him, but I am unaware of feats Bane has that surpasses Maul's. The lightning had reduced his clothes to ash, and his gloves and boots had melted away. When Bane returned to Ciutric, he was surprised to find Zannah's ship still gone, but he was grateful that she wouldn't be waiting for him back at the mansion. It was one of many talents, and he had worked to develop them all equally. "I lured Hetton here so you could kill him!". It was Hego Damask as Plagueis who then set his sights on a seemingly confused young man and, with meticulous skill, manipulated him into committing patricide, matricide, fratricide. And the OP asked "Why Bane wins" and "Why can't Maul he scaled". And many Sith simply backstabbed their masters rather than proving themselves superior. @darthduelist9: caught them off guard? She fell into a defensive posture as she so often had during their training sessions. Watch Queue Queue He had moved beyond their teachings. To tell the story we had to create several backstories for it. Also it's interesting you're arguing that TPM Kenobi is comparable to Qui-Gon and nearing the level of being one of the most skilled Jedi duelists in history (something confirmed by Obi-Wan being considered one of the greatest combatants in the Jedi Order as of 33 BBY), but this is something that only makes Bane look more impressive. 2-Some Siths killed their masters with dirty tricks or when they were old. Because simply studying that stuff would have helped him to become stronger in general, regardless of wether he used those techniques or not. The Barabel and the Wookiee nodded in agreement. Is it battle that stirs you, to meet an enemy blade upon blade? Its more like neither of them were expecting him to be so reckless. Plus, while Palpatine did see him as a potential successor, he has yet to teach him quite a lot of secrets of the Dark Side. The air still crackled with the power and energy of the dark side that made her tingle in fear and anticipation. And being one ofthe best Jedi duelists in history